On today’s episode, we sit down with Charlie Gearside, co-founder of Eucalyptus - one of Australia’s fastest-growing healthtech companies, recently valued at $560 million. After 6 intense years building alongside three close friends, Charlie made the rare move: he walked away.

We explore:

- Why he left Eucalyptus at its peak

- The personal toll of startup life and how therapy helped

- Australia’s cost of living crisis and housing affordability

- The rise of equity as a new wealth path for young Australians

- How culture, media, and politics are shaping our economic future

- Charlie’s vision for Australia — and why he’s turning to content to tell it

This episode is honest, vulnerable, and sharp. If you're a founder, creator, or someone wondering *what’s next for Australia*, this one’s for you.

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00:00 Introduction

00:29 Charlie's Exit from Eucalyptus

01:03 Startup Insights and Equity

01:25 Audience Engagement and Subscription Drive

02:03 Charlie's New Journey and Reflections

04:59 Challenges and Burnout

12:05 Vanta Ad

12:42 Therapy and Self-Discovery

22:01 Australian Startup Ecosystem

22:46 Vision for Australia's Future

30:59 Media's Role in Startup Culture

31:27 Optimism in Tech Journalism

32:24 Challenges for Australian Startups

34:39 Deep Tech and Investment in Australia

36:17 The Brain Drain Dilemma

38:47 Economic and Cultural Impacts

43:20 Encouraging Entrepreneurship

52:41 Balancing Personal Life and Entrepreneurship

55:28 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs

57:47 Future Visions and Political Aspirations

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