When you came to the US, what did it just look like? Opulence or extravagance or waste. What was your reaction? The right word for my initial reaction was waste. I think this is part of the American consumer culture around everything. Everything's very big. Everything's single use. You know, Costco shopping is such a quintessentially American experience. That prosperity and waste almost to the size of the same coin in the system that we live in. And those two things we don't often think about when you think about developing and prosperity.

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