The personal trainer podcast is perhaps the most underrated resource on the internet as a podcast people call this podcast underrated but they don't know about it. I listen to every episode and I'm not a personal trainer and I've no desire to be at this stage of my life but I listen because you and Jordan really talk a lot about truth and you break down current events issues, like just how your view of the world is going on. It was just a natural extension of oh let's have some conversations and put them out and then it can also be the marketing engine for a business. Even without that it's fun to sit there and have conversations like we've had so many conversations he and

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