🇺🇦 The Fate of the Donbas
This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler
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Do You Think the Turks Are Mediating This?
There are lots of taboos in all of this er i think its it has sort of been a taboo for reasons that are understandable. No one wants to be undermining ukrane's, youre, a right to defend itself and all the sacrifices its make. I'm simply talking from a position of realism here,. You're going to find that these a e neighbouring countries have somehow got to coexist next to each other going into the future. That that's just a bottom line fact. And something i think that has been totally forgotten, because diplomacy isn't really a big feature of this conflict still, is that bilateral talks between russian and ukranian negotiators began four days after
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