Jamal Kishogi was a Saudi, I would call him like an activist slash journalist. He walked into the Saudi consulate in order to get some marriage papers and he never walked out. It became increasingly clear after a few days of just intense speculation that he was murdered by the Saudi state within the Saudi consulate. And it's estimated that there's over 800 text messages between them that were compromised.
Danny and Derek welcome Rose Reid and Nando Vila, co-hosts of the new podcast Shoot the Messenger: Espionage, Murder & Pegasus Spyware. They discuss mass surveillance, (the totally legal) Pegasus spyware, how the grisly murder of Jamal Khashoggi fits into this, the vulnerability of journalists, and more.
Check out the first episode of the podcast, which we put on our feed, and other episodes on Apple Podcasts or wherever you download your podcasts.
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