I'd rather than just say we don't care. Let's have some honesty. We don't give a damn about future generations. Then that's an honest position. But I just think what I'm saying there is that you could get a massive cut just by changing lifestyles of a relatively small group. That means the materials and the way they use things could be used for other purposes. And so you may be right. Maybe we are going to go to hell in a hand cart and there's nothing we can do, but at the moment, I don't think you can come to that conclusion.

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