Liberalism is not jus that it sees nature as an obstacle. It deconstructs the realm of culture. Our tradition is we don't have one. Our culture is we don’t have a i think that's a very deep, interesting way to think about it. I think this is to exstent i think we had a kind of a remnant culture t was obviously informed by an older christian understanding of the human person. That persisted for a time. The argument of my book is that the underlying political philosophy had its own logic that eventually dissembled a that culture and that tradition. And that's where we find ourselves to day.

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