Is the Rise of Popularism Economical or Cultural?

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Is the explanation for a rise of popularism economic? Or is it cultural? It seems to me like here we have a nice example of how those two things go together. In this upper middle class you manage to create a bunch of people who were both rich, getting richer, and culturally detaching from the rest of society. And so you saw the detachment happening on multiple dimensions at once. That's what really makes for class fracture. If it was just economics, it would be much less it was just culture, if it was gjust geography. But it was all of them at the same time.

Richard Reeves is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of Dream Hoarders and, most recently, Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do About It.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Richard Reeves discuss how the upper middle-class has cornered the market on economic opportunity; why helping men does not mean undoing progress for women; and whether the problems facing men and boys are more structural than we often think.

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