The Signification of Marriage Is Natural or Sacramental

Daniel: It seems to me that at least one of the implicit questions here which is really interesting is not just whether ministers are required but what is the signification of marriage itself both natural and sacramental. If it's the case that there's actually two distinct ends that natural marriage has a kind of natural end and supernatural marriage sacramental marriage has a supernatural end then we can still say okay we're not going to fall into you know day Loubox sort of critiques of Cajatán, he says. Daniel: I think I'm more inclined to agree with you Daniel. There's an obediential potency it's elevatable But if there's a separate end then it would seem