Athletic Expression and the Excitement of the NBA Cup

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Chuck Klosterman to discuss a myriad of topics, including the current state of college sports (3:45), lessons learned (or not) from the 2024 election (30:50), modern NBA superstardom, how the public's relationship with celebrity has evolved, the next generation of documentaries, thoughts from the Tyson-Paul fight (59:56), HBO's ‘The Sopranos,’ and more (2:08:56).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Chuck Klosterman

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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