Is There a Difference Between Happiness and Joy?

In this deeply personal episode, Anderson reflects on the suicide of his brother, Carter, and the impact that loss still has on his life today. Anderson is joined by Dr. BJ Miller, a hospice and palliative care physician whose sister, Lisa, died by suicide. BJ brings exceptional wisdom to a difficult conversation and suggests some surprising ways to think about sadness and grief.

This episode contains discussions of suicide. If you or someone you love is struggling, call the national suicide and crisis lifeline at 988.

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