i think people are insane if they don't think that someone who's mild mannered, like the late steve jobs, or bill gates, or even somebody who's older and more genteel, like a warren buffet. If they think those guys aren't intense, they're insane. All of em embody the points that we're going to talk about in this episode and basically unpack so that people could start to think about a nd. There's rally only four major points to this, but all of em possess this. And they might not verbalize it the same way. They might not be this aggressive a od, intense voice a, they might not have a voice