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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

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Pastor Woody Dean's Wounds

The older you get, the less of a victim you realize you are. And the more of a perpetrator. You know, we all are, but we're all perpetrators too. Pastor Woody Dean has had to do my healing in process. That's self-inflicted. I just haven't taken a long break. But yeah, I had my baggage too. It accumulates for sure.

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