Almost all my guests are on because i'm a fan boy ff what they do. Robert green's a great example, youo robert green's one of my favorite writers and tim o'brien have both been on the pocast. And that's where the self interest comes in. Some of our most unique stories have been with unknowns. Tik, we had a guy, craig stanland, who had been in jail for a while, and talked about his experience like you felt it,. moet by moment, the fear as the police were approaching him. I don't even know if the pocket sibu did well or not, but that's a good observation

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