Suppose we're worried about AIs engaging in long-term plans that they don't tell us about. If we were to peek inside their brains, what should we look for to check whether this was happening? In this episode Adrià Garriga-Alonso talks about his work trying to answer this question.

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Transcript: https://axrp.net/episode/2025/01/20/episode-38_5-adria-garriga-alonso-detecting-ai-scheming.html

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The Alignment Workshop: https://www.alignment-workshop.com/

Topics we discuss, and timestamps:

01:04 - The Alignment Workshop

02:49 - How to detect scheming AIs

05:29 - Sokoban-solving networks taking time to think

12:18 - Model organisms of long-term planning

19:44 - How and why to study planning in networks

Links:

Adrià's website: https://agarri.ga/

An investigation of model-free planning: https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.03559

Model-Free Planning: https://tuphs28.github.io/projects/interpplanning/

Planning in a recurrent neural network that plays Sokoban: https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.15421

Episode art by Hamish Doodles: hamishdoodles.com