We Should Be Like the Beavers, Renewing It

"We took that gorgeous thing and we consumed it, you know, and we are still consuming it," he says. "There is a role for us, but we need to be clear-eyed about which of the complex systems we had a role in." The Amazon was much more managed than we knew, even though it's an intensively touched habitat,. And I think there are two lessons in tension: We should manage these things to the benefit of humanity going forward, but two, managing them means as light a touch as possible.

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