In wales, after coved and high prices of gas, things like that, especially in the rural areas, are these conversations starting to happen, or not really. I think there are some sort of food sustainability groups that are getting going. And i'm seeing a lot of shift in the way people are addressing politicalshifs. People that used to be very solidly in one direction another now wavering. But part of our problem is this expecting government to be like the sort of green energy fairy. See, they've got the magic wand somewhere, but they're refusing to wave it because of all these corporate interests. There is nobody making the story up. We are part of

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