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The Importance of Overcoming Doubt in a Divorce

I spent my whole life chasing what my parents didn't have you know I'm gonna have it you watch me I'm gonna get it and so when I got into the marriage it was like it felt like a trophy but it didn't feel like it was fully realized. That's a big secret behind this record is is being okay with that  being on the other side of a divorce and starting overlike what am I doing now? There's a lot of freedom in it because I'm not seeking relationship for the first time in my life or validation from someone else to validate me.

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