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The Body Is Real. It's Real
"There's something very, very real and physical going on here too. And we we ignore that or degrade it at at, you know, at our peril," he says. "I'm uncomfortable with degrading the lived human biology a experience in order to elevate some other spiritual one." 'It's really easy to talk about that body, this thing that you leave behind, until you're in real, bad pain,' he adds.'Once you let go of the body, then you letgo of all the other bodies and that are there, going through what they're going through.'