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McCleskey v. Kemp ft. Josie Duffy Rice

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Is the Death Penalty a Crime?

"I very much appreciate you guys like backfilling my tasteless joke, making it sound rational and reasonable," Foreman says. "There is also kind of an institutional trust among at least leaders and elite people of all colors in this system." He adds: "They become the individual victim when they are perpetrating the actions of the state"

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