There is a whole sort of dark commerce system for nefarious activities in cyper space. Intelligence services is trying to monitor those black markets. There are all sorts of guns for hire, riht. Thereare siber proxies. You can get people to write you balware and send you what are called zero day vulnerabilitieses or vulnerabilities and code that the developers don't know. So they're very attuned to what's going on in cyver space.

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