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E11: Katherine Boyle on Building Companies, Families, and Careers

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Rise and Fall of Families in America

Sally Kohn: I've always believed that much of American life and history is experienced through the rise and fall of families. You mentioned earlier about America being a great place to come build a family and a life for your family. Oftentimes you only hear people talk about like bringing shame to their families, if they're first generation Americans or whatnot. My maternal grandfather, fought in World War II, grew up as one of 12 children didn't have graduated from eighth grade, didn't have a high school education and drove a truck his entire life. And so when you look at two generations to go from that experience in America of driving trucks coal mines fighting in wars, coming over

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