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“Between Barack and A Hard Place.”

Pod Save America

CHAPTER

We Need to Turn Down the Rhetoric and Make Things

I think one thing we see in poll after poll, like there's no message that tends to draw more approval than one that says we need to bring down the temperature. There is a kind of vicious circle that runs from media figures like Tucker Carlson and political figures like Kerry Lake to the base and from the base back up. And if we don't look to that cause that undergirding sort of inhumanity that is being pumped out every single day, this will just keep getting worse.

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