The fact that at the moment, I can't officially prove when and where is a minor detail. When Christians discuss the new birth, the second birth, or the birth from above, they often forget this. Some people experience their entry into Christian faith as a huge tumultuous event with a dramatic build up. They are then easily tempted to think that this moment itself is the center of what it means to be Christian. Sadly, there are many inside the church as well as outside whose present state suggests that one ought to examine whether in fact a real spiritual birth took place at all. But where there are signs of life, it's more important to feed and nurture it than to spend much time going

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