When we see it there is an aha moment because that's where you know the line is. I can't cross over that line or I'm going to have to figure out some other strategy to get across that line and that strategy typically is to become more like the white person so that you can become more acceptable in their eyes. Another tragedy that is another moment when Black person has that experience they are they're traumatized yet again and they realize that off times it is the system which keeps them in place. Reconstruct rather than deconstruct.
Greg interviews Dr. Dean Helen Easterling Williams, Pepperdine University Graduate School of Education and Psychology. In an upfront and candid conversation, Greg and Dean Williams explore the difference in their experiences as academics, leaders, and human beings. Dean Williams' perspective as a black woman, academic, and leader on everything going on in America, and how to most effectively move forward and make change, is a conversation you will not want to miss.
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