Speaker 2
Ye, i would say that like, am, especially as i listen to more actual russians, rather than like, english, like, english speaking people who comment on russia, like, from what i've heard, people don't like the average russian. And even, like, like, not that like, from what i've heard, dugan is not actually that influential in russia. No, he's like influential in the far right right?
Speaker 1
Yes? Like a, dugan is nota major, he is not a major political figure in any sort of conventional a sense. He's more sort of, just, like, in terms of the global far right, he's, he has like, relative popularity, but he is not, he's not, like, he has not some sort of moder rasputonye,
Speaker 2
exactly. Now, his book, the fourth political theory. Now, what were the first three?
Speaker 1
Well, you know, you've got liberal democracy, marxism and facism, and so dugan s along and says, you know, like, all right, i know you've heard of third positionism, but coming out now fourth positionism, ehbut how about that? Which, you know, i as someone who like, makes up me mydeologies, i have to respect the hustleyes.
Speaker 2
I mean, honestly, like, when can we expect fifth position?
Speaker 1
I'm working on it right now.