I think the most pessimistic reading of what he's saying is our society is set up in really deep ways to make us desperate for social connection and meaning and purpose. So I like what he says about you know television both is a problem because now the more you watch television the more you withdraw from society. And so it both is like a cause of your problems and offers itself as a solution. Yeah so it's cyclical maybe but I think cyclical and maybe maybe it's an upward spot. Maybe maybe it't an upward spiral.

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