53: It's A Mess, We're A Mess, It's Messy.
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The Importance of Being Kind
Kathy: "There's nothing that I could have done differently to prepare separately for this" A lot of folks try to attack messiness from the perspective of, well, just don't be messy. Kathy says she will continue to do her best and give herself more kindness.
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