Ben: We wanted to launch a fund if we thought that we could generate like alpha above just saying go buy eth and go buy bitcoin if you believe in crypto right so it's like do i believe i can outperform eth uh no so i'm not going to do that. He says there are multiple ways you can parlay this audience in the future what we decided to do was say let's use this as an excuse to learn and get smarter about crypto because getting smart and crypto can be a very financially lucrative thing for you. Ben: Now we'll see over the next five years if those startups that we invested in turn out to be big winners or or fizzle out.