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Trump's Rise and Trumpism
I think until you see someone like that actually running against Trump, it's very, very hard to know whether or not he will really live up to the hype. Last night at DeSantis Victory Party, supporters were chanting two more years, obviously a nod to the potential 2024 run. I don't typically encounter people hundreds or thousands of miles away from a state eager to pitch me on the virtues of a candidate they hope runs several years out. So I think that's worth something. And I think all the hype around him is worth something.