Jeremy Sogarera, Jeremy's Having Trouble at Home, Oh My God. Oh, Oh, Is He?

Independent podcaster is constantly scanning his eyes about looking for like, okay, what is nobody talking about? That's my hot take that hits that unmet need in the universe. So I was struck by and this will be in the very, very narrow context of independent podcaster talk. There's a lot of people who have worked for networks and where there is a structure and there's a ladder for you to climb. It's a zero sum game. The bad news is- Which is the bones of Nancy Reagan. All right. Brian, I'm glad you came to this pitch meeting. But I mean, as perverse as that example is, it's kind of like that's what