"There was something going on here, dude. Like you can't possibly say that there wasn't anything going on," he says. "When we're making an assertion that X causes Y, we need to have proof of X and we need to see that X cause Y in order to make that claim." He points to studies where people who were injected with saline became sicker than those being injected with a placebo.

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