The Backlash Was the Intention, Derek?

Derek: The conflation of like a theatrical over the top performance depicting a version of some sort of ritual is different than the actual ritual. Derek: It says more about, I think, culture and the atmosphere is appetite for that sort of performance than it does necessarily about the artist who's probably to a degree trolling or opportunism. Like Lil Nas X every time he's about to make a hit, he's like, who can I incite? Right. He just picks on Christians. And because a lot of, a lot of Christians are. They take the bait.