The Baby's Game and That

Justin, Jamey and Liz sit down with award winning trans actress and activist Angelica Ross (POSE, AHS) to discuss what it means to be protected, who needs protection and what it looks like to be a true protector in a divided world. Through an array of brave commentary, Angelica shares vulnerable stories about her childhood, her relationship with her mother, how humanizing your parents can provide healing and her experience as a trans woman who often catches the eye of conventionally straight men.  

About Angelica Ross: 

Angelica Ross, 41, is a leading figure of success and strength, in the movement for human rights advocacy focused on Transgender and racial equality. As the president and founder of Trans Tech, an award winning program and social enterprise that helps trans people lift themselves out of poverty through technical training and resource sharing, Miss Ross is a tireless advocate for the visibility, equity and access in disadvantaged communities.

Angelica is an award winning actress who had her breakthrough on Ryan Murphy’s Award Winning FX hit series, Pose. The show features the largest transgender cast ever for a scripted series, making TV history! 

SHOW NOTES

1:37 - Host Intro

6:42 - Angelica Ross

8:50 - Creating Safe Spaces

11:39 - Angelica’s Brave Relationship with Her Mother

19:33 - Seeing Your Parents & Children As Human

25:27 - Men As Protectors

35:54 - Abortion is More Than A Woman’s Issue

46:48 - Jokes Can Hurt Like Knives, Dave Chappelle’s Impact on Mental Health

52:13 - There Is So Much Wisdom to be Gained From Marginalized People

55:43 - Defunding the Police

01:00:18 - Trans People Are Not the Boogeyman

01:06:39 - Diminishing Women Down to Their Parts

01:09:52 - Angelica Is Looking For a Man That Is ‘Man Enough’

01:13:42 - What Does It Mean to be ‘Man Enough?’

KEY QUOTES 

• "I'm creating not just a safe space, I'm creating a brave space."
• “It has taken me a lifetime to create this kind of peace and comfort…you are not going to make me feel uncomfortable.”

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ANGELICA ROSS LINKS:

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/angelicaross/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/angelicaloveross
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/angelicaross
• Site: https://missross.com/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/MissRoss
• Podcast: Like A Butterfly

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Justin Baldoni

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