We can have different depths of contact in a relationship or with the world at large. And i see self contact here. Not to say that it's not contact with everything else, cause it also is. So what we do is, ah, we turn to what's here. And even if what's here is, i have no idea what's here, right? So we turn directly into this. Now, this is where a depth ontology starts to become helpful, because we can be in contact and experiencing what's here in different at different depths. These are all ways to understand this.

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