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David Pena Guzman: I went to college at the University of Nevada Reno on a debate scholarship. Between that and working my part-time job, that's how I paid for my education. He says he was an athlete as a debater; we would also have to get oiled up before our performance. "I want to tell you a story about a particular debate performance"

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