The Fabians, for example, in Britain who are all socialists, they were very heavily of the idea that we can do this through the ballot box. Then there were the hardcore anarchists who were like, uh, voting changed anything. They wouldn't let us do it. And the only way to have a revolution is to have arevolution to kill, to overthrow, to seize these factories. So this was a big source of contention. It also fed into the idea of where does free speech end? Is it legal to be giving speeches, advocating for violence and revolution? Is illegal?

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