When we do a weban ar, we want people walking away feeling something. And so we're going to need those pauses exactly right. People are just so worried about losing their audience's attention but they're actually contributing to overloading. They're listeners with words that don't actually bring people to action because they felt something. But it can't become second nature if you don't do certain things. First of all, you should be recording yourselves more. How many ascending scales did i do? How many fillers did I do? Oh, we need to talk about phillers. You need to start courting yourself and then listening back for the things we're talking about. Do

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