Ros talks with the Olympic gold medalist Michael Johnson. We all communicate multiple times a day but could we be getting better results? From a simple text or phone call, to a job interview or big presentation, the way we express ourselves and get our point across can really matter. Ros Atkins and his fascinating guests reveal the best ways to communicate and how simple changes in the way we make our point can be really effective.

In this episode, Ros asks Michael - what does it take to communicate well in a team with conflicting interests? And we hear how to communicate as an expert to a broad audience.

Series Producer: Hannah Newton Production Support: Olivia Cope Executive Producer: Zoë Edwards Mix Engineer: Jonathan Last Original Music Composed by: Tom Wrankmore / Eliphino Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts

A Listen production for BBC Radio 4