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Bench Mark Counterpositioning Against Kliner
Kleiner ac printers felt like they were pressured into doing deals and working with other cliner portfolio companies that didn't really make sense for them. So wad andy and bench mark did as they said, there's no pressure from us to do anything else. The thing about kleiner during its hay day was it really was john dore. But then he'd farm out the board seats to other partners and even associates.