The Ultimate Question Is, What Does Scripture Say?

i like to start when i talk about women's ordination, am, is the old testament. And clear sages should be the ones that we take first and foremost,. Then all the other passages are things that we can use to contribute to the conversation but they shouldn't trump the clear passages of scripture. I think our ecclesiology would differ from eastern orthodoxy or eastern orthodoxy as much as you know what  ecclesiology romeo means. But there is a different ecclesiology when you say a man who holds the pastoral office does not need to be specifically qualified in very certain ways. Does not have to go through a, the process of ordination with the laying