I think the first part of that question in terms of having a parent's wants to electrician wants to educator. I think what's been instilled is this, this idea of lifelong learning. And especially with college, you know, a community college, it's really seeing that it's not necessarily being on a conveyor belt of academia or prestige. It's about pursuing whatever it is that you want to learn. There's, there's accessible pathways to that learning doesn't have to cost anything. Learning can be from trying and creating and failing and trying again.