When you're in a difernt mind sat, you might be kind of in the hands of your primitive mind which affects all those things. And so i'd hammer these terms in lot and try to bring people into this. So now they can start looking at things ing o with this vertical lens. We have so many horizontal spectrums that we think about such as left, right and centre. But once you start thinking with this vertical i think our conversation's become a lot clearer. It lits the bottom rungs, which span the axis. That reduces tribalism,. because, you know, it's just going to dont no, i just think it um and i think its a

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