I don't know internally how he is probably one of the people that is pioneering and stepping into a realm of trying to scale something that is typically unscalable like emotions in gray because he plays in it very well. Gary Vaynerchuk is an example of someone who has scaled emotions and has scaled kind was and has scaled empathy so like how do you explain that and how does he how can we use him as a model for the next 20 years? I'm willing to go and have those conversations and put a pause on the business side of things because that's my my end goal is aligned with that are you trying to scale in ways I'm trying to it yes or no am I

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