"I just think we sort of have these ideas in our head that uh well you you can't raise taxes because it's going to be disastrous for the economy," he says. "It goes back to that false polarization stuff we started with I mean I am an optimistic person you know by nature but I'm worried about if if we raise taxes to try to have these social programs the whole economy is going to tank and those people are going to be worse off" He adds: "There should just be more of an attitude of who cares whose idea it was let's just see if it works and if it works it works great then let's move on to the next problem"

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