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The Importance of Healthy Debates
I think that's part of why things are so bad right now with the polarization is that people can't just have conversations like that. And I don't think, I think that if everybody could take a step back and have those kinds of a healthy debate, maybe we'd be in a better place. Yeah. When you guys hit like really big, how old were you? Um, well, not really big, but you know, you guy were huge. No, but I mean, when you, when it started getting really big, feeling like bigger, bigger at least. yeah.