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Ep. 235 - Steven Zapata

The Collective Podcast

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You Know, It's Just a Job, Its Another Job?

"I don't think I ever personally like relished in those things, but it's hard to ignore when you hit those milestones. And the shine just wears off pretty quick," he says. "You know, you realize like nobody cares what you say at a party."

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