I was torn about whether to talk to Donald Trump on this podcast as a historian, what would you advise? For historians who want to make sure that they know sort of what Americans are thinking and talking about. It seems like the system prefers mediocre executive mediocre leaders, mediocre partisan leaders. I can assure you, there's plenty of mediocre partisans in the 19th century. Okay, and the 20th. Well, let me ask you about platforming. Do you think Donald, it's the Twitter question, but I was torn aboutwhether to talk toDonald Trump on this podcasts as a historian,. What would you advise?"

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