The time for discussing the politics of nati expansion are long gone. Russia has attacked, and that's sort of all that matters at this point. Most eucranians have absolutely no patience for that discussion. For me, it's been frustrating, first of all, to see the extreme polarization of this discussion. And so my feeling has always been, and i feel this way also about the us. Putting weapons or giving weapons to ukrane the us, you know, engaging in activities that are clearly intended to strengthen ukrane's military but not that much. Right? Is that you should, you should make the choice, either do it or don't do it. But

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