Oleg ruvinski says, in your recent excellent talk with judea pearl, you had an interesting disagreement on antrope. You brought an example of a low entropy state as a triangle of billiard balls set up on a table, and of a high antropy state as all these same balls after they are hit by the cube ball. Judea objected to it by saying that difference here is in the eyes of the beholder. We humans understand and recognize triangles, but we don't recognize the pattern created by the cubeball. Oleg: Is paialy the same question?

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